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[antiendovents]

I don't trust that half the anti-endo systems on tumblr actually give a shit about their fellow systems, because there's never any follow through.

(General you) You rave and rant about how ableist endos are, but you use SP and PK. You pretend that you hate ableists, but you use userboxes from people who are pro-endo or who demonize NPD. You bitch about how fucking horrible endos are but you never actually DO anything about it.

I don't use SP or PK because they're endo run. I don't use Finch anymore cause the bastards are pro-endo. I don't do anything that has fucking endogenic bullshit, and I can survive perfectly well like that. Anyone who pretends they need a fucking discord bot to survive need to log off.

sorry but this is actually a horrible take. An anti endo using SP doesn't make them less of an anti endo. It a helpful tool, especially for bigger systems like ourselves who cannot rely on stupid little notebooks or whatever the fuck else you'd recommend. Octocon isn't any better, it's endo neutral and it's dev has been in a few different controversies that we won't go into now, however my point is that there is literally no good way for systems to track their alters or their fronting. Acting as if you are morally superior because you don't need those tools is fucked up, get the hell of my blog and go fuck yourself.

(also telling people to "log off" all because they want to be able to be themselves online is fucked up as well. Sure, you don't need pluralkit to live, but it is a tool that makes life easier for plenty of systems and to deny that to them is just blatant ableism at that point. Especially when for a lot of us knowing who said what could be very important for tracking reasons or other. Just because YOU can be "perfectly fine" without any kind of accommodation doesn't mean everyone else can)

[system-hottakes]

The suggestion of plurality without a mental disorder causing it is inherent misinformation.

Fuck any endo that says that you can be a system without a disorder.

Fuck any endo that says you can be a system without trauma.

!!!! Yes. Yes. I love you (/platonic). You get it. You understand. You're so valid and so right anon

[antiendosystemterms]

were not endo but you cant refuse to let someone use your term and then get angry when they coin their own version because they can't use yours

actually we can be angry when ableist pieces of shit steal our terms and continue to shove their way into our spaces while making everyone who isn't like them uncomfortable and scared. Fuck you. Get off my fucking blog and get away from my terms, I don't care if you're not an endo, if you're gonna defend them then fuck off

[antiendovents]

...what even did I just stumble across

Literally no what the actual fuck headmates are created when there is a need for them NOT when you suddenly decide 'oop I want another one' and just pretend. That's all these people do. They pretend and they're literally admitting it.

.......

What the fuck is wrong with people. Bro I'm gonna go bash my head into a wall

THEY'RE JUST OUTRIGHT ADMITTING THEY'RE ROLEPLAYING AT THIS POINT

[antiendovents]

I HATE when i say that "system" comes from medical and therapeutic research, but endos calls me sysmed 😭😭 what

Endos when disorders are medical : 😡

[antiendovents]

Screenshotted cause I used this ask to block anon

Okay, lemme make a few things clear. Let's talk about why I dislike endos, shall we? I know it might seem,, "off topic" but it's important. I dislike endos because they take DID/OSDD and the symptoms of those disorders and claim to experience them without having the disorders (or claim to have the disorders without trauma). They barge into the system community, steal our terms, harass anti endos, fight to "demedicalise" DID/OSDD which would objectively ruin the lives of those with the disorders as they'd be unable to access help if the disorder was suddenly just considered a "normal human experience" rather than, yk, a disorder. But, you know, that's not my only issue with them. I know a lot of ppl say "oh, well if they didn't use system terms they'd be fine" but they wouldn't be. Being plural is objectively a disordered thing, it is distressing for the brain, and the amount of dissociation needed for it is harmful. So, to claim to be plural without a disorder is harmful. Do we get this, do we understand that forcing dissociation where there is none or little of it is bad? Yes?

Well polyminds have just, taken the idea that "oh it's fine as long as I don't use system terms" (which btw isn't even fully what most of them do, i've seen at least two polyminds ask to use system terms and even more just already using them) and ran with it. The carrd for the term literally states they can "choose to identify as plural". How, pray tell, is this ANY different from an endo. They're endos under a different name, the sameway endos are transDID under a different name. Because at the end of the day they're clearly inspired by DID/OSDD, it's clear they WANT to be a system, which within of itself is pretty ableist, and they just wanna get away with pretending to be one under a different name. Also, why don't we talk about how dangerous it is? They're forcing dissociation on themselves by giving their "subpersonalities" identities and by pretending they're separate when they very much AREN'T. I don't consider it "misinformation" to call out the clear similarities between endos and polyminds where they both just want to claim symptoms of a disorder they DO NOT HAVE

And again, they're probably fucking up their own mental state by doing this. IT IS DANGEROUS TO FORCE DISSOCIATION, ESPECIALLY OF THE IDENTITY. Like, let's be SO FOR REAL, did we forget why dissociation is a symptom of multiple disorders, DID WE FORGET WHY DISSOCIATIVE DISORDERS EXIST? Like, chances are these people are gonna cause themselves to form dissociative disorders or some other kind of mental health issues doing this, AND TRUST ME IT WON'T BE DID OR OSDD. Like, I can also see polyminds likely have taken inspiration from IFS therapy, but guess what? THAT'S A KIND OF THERAPY. WITH A THERAPIST. YOU DON'T DO IT ON YOUR OWN ARE YOU STUPID? Also, may I remind you that IFS therapy works to make "parts"of yourself work together more and exist as an individual essentially, it's not meant to create separate unique identities for you to play with

Again, may I also remind people that ROLEPLAY IS RIGHT THERE. Roleplay as characters, people, idc. Just stop pretending you're something you're not and stop hurting yourself and endangering others by telling them to do the same

Also, anon, since you wanna go ahead and accuse me of spreading misinformation, why don't we go ahead and look over at your precious polyminds? Cause i'm sure there's NO misinformation there, right? You wanted me to learn about them, didn't you? So I'll learn all I can and I'll see ya few hours <3

[system-hottakes]

Hot take (maybe), systems don't require super scary severe trauma to form, the severity of trauma is subjective and even small things can be traumatizing to kids like the death of a pet, those things build and any of it can be what caused a disrupt in childhood development to form the system.

Not everyone's trauma has to be abuse, the content of your trauma doesn't dictate the validity of your system.

!! Trauma isn't the event it's the reaction

[system-hottakes]

Hot take: Alters who come from 18+ or controversial sources should be able to express where they came from and not have to live in fear of being forced not to exist or change how close to their source they are.

!! You shouldn't force anyone to hide themselves just because you're uncomfortable! Also introjects can't control their source